Getting to Know Woo
Welcome to Getting to Know Woo! I’m Natasha Levinger, a professional intuitive reader, energy healer and inner child healing expert. After being raised with extreme narcissism, I found talk therapy was helpful, but it wasn’t until I found energy and inner child healing that I was able to break free of family patterns that cut me off from knowing and loving my true self. I’m passionate about dispelling the rhetoric that these kinds of tools are impractical and ineffective. In this podcast I will be sharing just how beneficial and transformative they are. My husband and producer, Brett, will be joining me in conversation, and we’ll be welcoming experts along the way. I’m excited to have you here!
Welcome to Getting to Know Woo! I’m Natasha Levinger, a professional intuitive reader, energy healer and inner child healing expert. After being raised with extreme narcissism, I found talk therapy was helpful, but it wasn’t until I found energy and inner child healing that I was able to break free of family patterns that cut me off from knowing and loving my true self. I’m passionate about dispelling the rhetoric that these kinds of tools are impractical and ineffective. In this podcast I will be sharing just how beneficial and transformative they are. My husband and producer, Brett, will be joining me in conversation, and we’ll be welcoming experts along the way. I’m excited to have you here!
Episodes

Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
Episode 61 - Getting to Know Archetypal Tarot with Mariana Louis
Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett welcome Mariana Louis, archetypal taroist, psycho-spiritual educator, sacred feminist and author of Tarot and the Psychology of the Soul.
In this episode, they discuss:
Healing as a process of clearing out what is in the way of your already whole self
How resistance to difficult experiences keeps you from growing from them
Shame wants to keep things in the unconscious
What is depth psychology and how does it work with the unconscious?
Some things may be beyond our ability to every consciously examine
Archetypes and how they function in our life
How tarot is a communication between your conscious, unconscious, and the collective
Mariana wants to move the way people approach the tarot from divination to individuation
How seeking "clarity" from the tarot can sometimes just be an attempt at ego validation
If your goal when consulting the cards is connection, it will help keep you in the present
Learning to connect to your own knowledge can be very daunting, but very rewarding
Finding "the better question" instead of "the best answer" when reading the tarot
The importance of finding neutrality as much as you can before pulling cards
Why Mariana doesn't like it when a tarot deck renames cards to "less scary" things
And more!
Plus...
Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Mariana Louis's info:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/persephonessister
Book: Tarot and the Psychology of the Soul
Website: persephonessister.com
Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

Friday Feb 20, 2026
Episode 60 - Getting to Know Shadow Work with Jor-El Caraballo
Friday Feb 20, 2026
Friday Feb 20, 2026
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are delighted to talk with Jor-El Caraballo, licensed therapist, author, and creator of the new deck, Shadow Work for Self-Reflection.
In this episode, they discuss:
Should Brett & Natasha start doing a relationship segment?
Someone telling you their IQ is a red flag for Brett
Jor-El's history and work as a licensed therapist
Beginning to encounter shadow with clients before having the vocabulary
Carl Jung got more esoteric and metaphysical as he aged and diverged from mainstream psychology
An admiration for Jung's commitment to staying open and expanding throughout his life
Blending any and every approach to healing that works for you
Shadow work is the process of exploring and being curious about the wizard behind the curtain in your own psyche
The importance of non-judgemental curiosity and compassion when approaching shadow work
The benefits that come from shadow work
How shadow work for yourself benefits the community at large
It can be really scary to meet yourself
The ways in which shadow can be wielded against others when we don't try to learn about it
Shadow work can feel lonely, but there is always someone else out there who deals with the same kind of shadow
The things we are afraid of often hold parts of our power
Struggling with being an atypical boy growing up
Golden Shadow: positive traits that you learn to shun
The power of emotional sensitivity
How embracing your shadow can enable others to embark on their own journey
The ways that shadow can disguise itself from you as "just the way you are"
The practice of naming and speaking to your inner critic to give yourself emotional distance
Shadow work is never the pandora's box we fear it might be
Brett wishes he could trick people into doing shadow work, but Jor-El advises against it
Jor-El's recommendation for how to work with his deck: SLOW DOWN!
Hopper from Stranger Things could use some serious shadow work
Card pull for the week ahead
And more!
Plus...
Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Jor-EL Carballo's info:
Substack (Coffee & Contemplation): https://jorelcaraballo.substack.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jorelcaraballo/Deck: Shadow Work for Self-ReflectionBook: Mindful Meditations for Black MenWebsite: jorelcaraballo.com
Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Episode 59 - Getting to Know Microdosing with Kayse Gehret
Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are excited to talk with Microdosing Facilitator Kayse Gehret.
In this episode, they discuss:
How Mark Slaughter features in the Sliding Doors version of Natasha's life
The unbelievable true story of Natasha and the belching massage therapist
Kayse is the least likely person to work with magic mushrooms
She avoided all kinds of mind-altering substances due to gran mal seizure disorder
Microdosing healed Kayse's seizures, but also brought a host of other benefits
She started a microdosing community during Covid
That community effort has grown to include a podcast, a website, and training others
to do the work of guiding people through microdosing
The different medicines that can be used for microdosing
Microdosing is a sub-threshold dose, which means you don't feel altered.
It allows you to get the benefits of these medicines in a bite-sized way that is easier to incorporate into your day-to-day life
Microdosing is a different experience for everyone
How to make sure you're getting the dose you expect
How Kayse guides people remotely
The gift of everyone going online during the pandemic was being able to spread communities around the globe
Some popular misconceptions about these medicines
These medicines should not be called "drugs"
Are there specific medicines for specific conditions?
The power of restful sleep for a regulated central nervous system
How modern society contributes to nervous system overload
The surprising overlap of microdosing guides with corporate HR
The spiritual side of microdosing for Kayse
How plant medicine quiets the "me" part of our brains
Common misconceptions about microdosing
What if microdosing doesn't seem to work?
Community is an important part of the microdosing work
And more!
Plus...
Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Kayse Gehret's info:
Website: https://www.microdosingforhealing.com
Microdosing for Healing podcast
Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

Thursday Jan 22, 2026
Episode 58 - Getting to Know the I Ching with Jonathan Koe
Thursday Jan 22, 2026
Thursday Jan 22, 2026
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are excited to welcome back queer mystic, astrologer, energy healer, Jonathan Koe, to talk about The I Ching.
In this episode, they discuss:
We're back! Is there anybody still here?
Natasha has loved the I Ching since she was a teenager
Jonathan started their practice a few years ago after a very powerful reading
The gates in Human Design are inspired by the I Ching
A variety of ways to approach the I Ching
Because the I Ching is essentially bibliomancy, it makes itself very accessible
Allowing your own knowing to come into your work with the I Ching
When looking for "signs" is a desire to connect with the universe, and when it's a
subordination of self
Investigating your biases before you formulate your question for the I Ching
The intelligence of the built-in slowness of querying the I Ching
The best emotional place to begin casting from
How the I Ching can connect you to your own power
Approaching your time with the I Ching like being with a master or a teacher
Connection to the divine through the I Ching
A brief overview of the structure of the I Ching
The I Ching is known as The Book of Change
Natasha and Jonathan both find the I Ching very soothing, but also bossy
The effect of the translator on English version of the I Ching
Ending with a card reading for the week ahead
And more!
Plus...
Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Jonathan Koe's info:
Healing the Spirit podcast
Jonathan's substack for Healing the Spirit
Jonathan's website: https://www.jonathankoe.com
Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

Friday Jun 13, 2025
Episode 57 - Getting to Know a New Human Design Paradigm with Katie Rose
Friday Jun 13, 2025
Friday Jun 13, 2025
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett eagerly welcome intuitive coach Katie Rose to the show to talk about what Human Design has to say about an upcoming paradigm shift called The Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix.
In this episode, they discuss:
Thoughts on how cultural evolution is supplanting genetic evolution in humans for emotional and physical growth
Everyone is needed in the fight
This is the time for allies to be showing up, everywhere
Pulling oracle cards for the energy of the next two weeks
Recalling Katie's last interview
The new paradigm arriving in 2027, according to Human Design
The previous paradigm allowed for setting up infrastructure and rigidity
The new paradigm (The Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix) allows for gray area, complexity
The new paradigm grounds in authenticity and community
Not neglecting yourself in the caring of each other
How energy healing helps to tell all the parts of yourself when you've changed and grown
The importance of dealing with both emotional and intellectual understanding in your healing
Brett forgets that podcasts are an auditory medium
The advantages of energy work when compared to traditional therapy
The hope that traditional therapy will also get a software update
Building compassion for yourself allows you to build it for others
It's normal to not heal in a "straight line"
It is detrimental when we are dogmatic about the supremacy of any single system/philosophy/idea
How the human brain views familiarity as safety, even when it is not actually safe
But the brain can be re-educated
What happened for Katie when a long-healed pattern cropped up again unexpectedly
Approaching our own "negative" reactions with curiosity instead of judgement
How curiosity can be enough while you are still learning to apply self-compassion
Being triggered doesn't mean you're not growing
How healing can be like turning on the light in a chaotic room
And more!
Plus...
Natasha is starting a small-group psychic skills mentorship. Learn more at natashalevinger.com
Learn more about about Pattern Shifting, Natasha's new two-session mini-mentorship
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Katie Rose's info:
Katie's workshop on June 20: Summer SOULstice. Learn more or register here.
Katie's website: https://www.katierosecoaching.com
Katie's Instagram: @helloimkatierose
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Getting to Know Woo is a bi-weekly podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

Wednesday May 21, 2025
Episode 56 - Getting to Know Sacred Plant Magic with Amy Blackthorn
Wednesday May 21, 2025
Wednesday May 21, 2025
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett talk with Amy Blackthorn, author of Sacred Plant Magic.
In this episode:
Nataha loooooved Gracie Allen
Our oldest graduated high school!
Healing = timeline collapsing
Breck is a terrible name for a shampoo
Brett has some healing around conflict
Reprogramming trauma through scents
How to customize your own therapeutic scents
Working with the spirit of plants, even if you don't have the plants
Learning to communicate with plants
Scent has a totally separate pathway from speech in your brain from other senses.
And music has a separate pathway from speech
The importance of working with plants even if you can't afford a bunch of essential oils
A (not so) brief distraction by Amy's pitbull, Millie.
Connecting with plants from other epochs
Amy's efforts to bring some economic justice to her work
And more!
Plus...
There are openings for Natasha's small-group psychic mentorship. Apply or learn more here!
Listen to Natasha's current podcast, Crystal Ballers, with co-host Britten LaRue.
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful. Episodes are released as available during breaks from Natasha's main podcast, Crystal Ballers (https://www.crystalballerspod.com)

Monday Apr 21, 2025
Episode 55 - Getting to Know Auras, Activism & Dragons
Monday Apr 21, 2025
Monday Apr 21, 2025
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett talk about the messages coming from their guides about connecting to community and to the land you live on.
In this episode:
Getting involved in supporting causes you care about
Find a way to use your specific skills to support a cause
Brett's use of aura work to support his activism
Setting up two versions of your aura
Aura work is accessible but powerful
Dragons have become a regular part of Natasha's life
Yes, dragons.
The grounding energy of dragons
"Crazy times call for grounded dragons"
And more!
Plus...
Sign up for Grounding in the Chaos, an upcoming workshop from Crystal Ballers.
There are openings for Natasha's small-group psychic mentorship. Apply or learn more here!
Listen to Natasha's current podcast, Crystal Ballers, with co-host Britten LaRue.
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Mentioned in this episode:
GTKW Episode 43 - Getting to Know Auras & More with Eliza Swann
Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful. Episodes are released as available during breaks from Natasha's main podcast, Crystal Ballers (https://www.crystalballerspod.com)

Friday Mar 07, 2025
Episode 54 - Getting to Know My New Podcast (Crystal Ballers)
Friday Mar 07, 2025
Friday Mar 07, 2025
We're back, woozers! Well, kind of. We're back to briefly explain our disappearance, tell you when you can expect to see us back here, and to share Natasha's new podcast, Crystal Ballers!
Here's the show description for Crystal Ballers episode 8.
Welcome to Crystal Ballers, a podcast celebrating the audacity to create our future now, with your hosts Britten LaRue and Natasha Levinger.
This week, Natasha & Britten are excited to welcome special guest, Xenia Viray. Xenia Marie Ross Viray (she/they) is an imagination healer, frequency artist, and creativity catalyst. She is the eldest of three sisters, and her name means kindness to strangers. Born as a brick-and-mortar fashion business, Myths of Creation is a container for experiments, art, writing, and gatherings at the intersection of creativity, spirituality, and meaning-making. Xenia guides spirited innovators who want to bring their natural genius into form.
In this episode:
Attuning yourself to find the poem within reality
Allowing familiar physical tasks to quiet your mind enough to connect to that poem
Xenia's eternal inner child is making peace with being a grown being in a human body
A body-based approach to timeline creation
The relationship between The Conscious Creator and The Allowing Mystic in each of us
Xenia's relationship to writing
Being at the first Webbie Awards
Designing her own writing degree at NYU
Powerful affirmations for these (and other) chaotic times
You can tune your antenna to what you want and wait for the frequency to come in
If you cannot believe something, it's hard to find it in reality
There are many realities present, and you do not have to escape reality to experience them now
Your desires are your map to new realities
How obsession and avoidance can be used to tune into new realities
How shame can keep you from doing the work to tune into new timelines
Why it can feel like abandoning people when you thrive
Where magic and quantum physics meet
Tuning yourself to a frequency of suffering is not the most efficient way to create intimacy with someone else
Worrying about the optics of self-care rather than the reality of it
Learning to see when your own perception is clouded or unclouded
The practicality of being an optimistic dreamer
Pondering the difference between escaping and dreaming
Questioning our own delineations of the "real" world and the "dream" world
Daydreaming as a crucial self-care tool
Labeling things as "daydreaming" unnecessarily centers this reality as the "main" reality
Where we place our consciousness dictates our reality
Learn about The Observer Effect on the Double Slit Experiment
Our attention is the alchemical mechanism for putting our consciousness onto a timeline
We are creating our reality every...single...second
Inner child work can help put you and your inner child parts on the same timeline
The relationship of The Algorithm to the Observer Effect
Obstacles to using the Observer Effect to change reality on a societal level
A mystical model for reality can allow you to access facets of yourself for different moments
The trap of relationships oriented toward struggle (even shared struggle)
How a need or validation can get you stuck in single perspectives
Using self-compassion to help scared parts of yourself move into safety
We need trust to evolve as a society
Some seeds need certain stressors to ever start growing
Accepting the moment we're in as an invitation to crack open new ways of being, thinking, feeling
Community is so important for resilience
The Allegory of The Butterfly & The Imaginal Discs
What repulses you can be a signal for self-examination
If you're building a business on magic: keep doing what your'e doing
And more
Plus...
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

Wednesday Nov 20, 2024
Episode 53 - Getting to Know Connection
Wednesday Nov 20, 2024
Wednesday Nov 20, 2024
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett talk about the messages coming from their guides about connecting to community and to the land you live on.
In this episode:
Check your auras, kids!
A closed aura does not mean a shut down aura
Is Brett shutting down or getting his shit together?
The importance of community and not waiting for a savior
Some tools for coping with fear and anxiety
Choosing to view yourself as completely alone or connected to everything
Find the things that nourish and lift you up
Connecting to people locally
Connecting to the land you live on and its spirits
Adding some regular energetic hygiene to your routine
Continuing our new segment, Blisses & Misses!
Difference between an oracle deck and a tarot deck
Trusting and knowing your own magic
And more!
Plus...
Spots are open for Awakening, Natasha's one-on-one mentor program.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Mentioned in this episode:
Erin in the Morning (www.erininthemorning.com)
Stained Glass Woman from Doc Impossible (stainedglasswoman.substack.com)
Big Fan by Alexandra Romanoff (831stories.com/products/big-fan)
Getting to Know Woo is a bi-weekly podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

Monday Oct 28, 2024
Episode 52 - Getting to Know Witches & Spellcasting with Judika Illes
Monday Oct 28, 2024
Monday Oct 28, 2024
Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are thrilled and honored to welcome back Judika Illes, author of the new book Witches: A Compendium, the latest in her vast contributions to the woo non-fiction library.
In this episode, they discuss:
Blisses & Misses: a new segment to celebrate and encourage our growth
Natasha can just will herself to do things; Brett not so much
Gretchen Rubin's Four Tendencies
Fun is a core value for Natasha
Brett's an "Obliger" and he doesn't like it
How trusting yourself can help you to trust the universe
Judika loves witches!
Art witches and creativity for spellcasting
Rosalind Norton, Lenora Carrington, Valley Meyers, and other art witches
A prayer is a request; a spell is a demand
How having no other options can empower your witchcraft
The semantics of "intention" and its role in spellcasting
You start to need a spell when you have a dilemma
Do you have to believe a spell will work?
Sometimes the spells that don't work tell us more than the ones that do
Judika explains the most dangerous part of any spell
The importance of being honest with yourself when working with magic
Low level entities that feed on fear
Clearly defining what you want with spellcasting
The risks of using spells to cast revenge
Alternatives to revenge spells
Her book is a celebration of witches
People using Judika's book to do bibliomancy
Even Judika pronounces her last name "wrong"
The Energy Report is back!
And more!
Plus...
There's still time to sign up for Natasha's small-group psychic skills mentorship. Learn more at natashalevinger.com
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Spots are open for Awakening, Natasha's one-on-one mentor program.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com
Judika Illes's info:
Judika's website: https://www.judikailles.com
Judika's Instagram: @judikailles
Getting to Know Woo is a bi-weekly podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.




